The Fedora 12 LXDE spin turns out to be a huge success. It only took us 8 days to become number #2 in the most popular Fedora Spins, although the other spins were released two weeks before LXDE. As I’m writing this post, we had more than 2500 complete BitTorrent downloads.
Thanks to all the people who downloaded the spin and made this possible. I really appreciate the your interest in LXDE and my work. Thanks for all the nice feedback I received so far.
If you don’t have the spin yet, grab the ISO image at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde/#downloads
If you want to install it on a device with no CD drive, you can make a bootable USB key of the image. Attention: Please don’t use UNetbootin, it’s known to be broken. Use liveusb-creator or the livecd-iso-to-disk script from the livecd-tools package instead.
Fedora 12 LXDE Spin – Screenshot
Finally the hard working people over at the Fedora project have released a working Fedora 12 Spin featuring LXDE! Christoph has the complete story behind the delay, never mind that though and go grab your copy at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde/ (in the last couple of hours 60 other downloads have already occured).
After our meet up at the Google Summit in Mountain View last week Yaakov Nemoy now published a simple Hacking Guide for LXDE/Fedora on the XO of the OLPC project. While Christoph Wickert and the LXDE team is already working on a fully supported version for the XO, this is “a bunch of quick and dirty hacks to get people started”.
Yaakov: We’ve got a few long term issues we have to look at.
- Getting an olpc-switch-foo app for switching to LXDE Including LXDE in a build rather than gnome
- Testing zypper as an alternative to yum. (We may just want to include both if there’s the space, i do not believe in shipping devices that are crippled if we can help it, we don’t know the true use case yet.)
- … it seems that the os8.img has issues with WPA access points.
We are documenting the advancements of LXDE on the XO in the LXDE Wiki (http://wiki.lxde.org/en/XO) as well as in the wiki of laptop.org (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LXDE).
LXDE finally has its own display manager, lxdm, and doesn’t need to rely on GDM or KDM from now on.
To see is to believe.
Recently, a new developer dgod from China joined us and contributed a new project, lxdm, a lightweight display manager aimed to replace gdm. Later, I modified his code, and re-implement the UI with GTK+. So, this is how it look like. It’s still in very early stage, and things are not expected to work correctly. For now, it only work smoothly with Fedora. On Ubuntu or others, there might be some issues. However we’ll work on fixing those problems and finish this new display manager.
The code is in LXDE svn repo. For someone who wants to try it, use at you own risk and have fun!
* LXDE Wiki: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDM
Visited the local post office earlier this week and collected a parcel from Berlin. Mario had sent me one OLPC XO courtsey of the LXDE Foundation. I will use it to participate in the LXDE based efforts for doing things for the OLPC project. The aims for the LXDE side of thing is to take the XO to children in a slightly older target audience. Kinda strange, I was stunned by the nice things included in the standard setup.
We did the unboxing at my house (I live with four other people here and we had even a guest from Switzerland over) and we were all amazed of the cute little machine. Me and one of the girls who are more in to the programming and doing interesting stuff besides surfing with a computer was carried away. I found myslef longing back to the days when I was a child. Ok, my C64 is still a bit cooler than the XO but there are some interesting similarities. The standard setup have some different applications to teach programming, more code in some and more for the problem solving in some. Terrific! That’s how it used to be back in the days (check out hacketyhack and _why for a overview of some the things I belive in. Doing real interesting stuff and not be served everything for instance).
Anyhow. I just got my developer key installed and disabled security in the machine, this will enable me to reflash it with either Fedora or Debian to run LXDE on top. As I am the Debian guy in other choices I am leaning more towards Fedora, kinda nice to be able to see something new here. I’ll check with cwickert about the status of the Fedora things.
The neighborhood thing is really really cool. Together with the mesh networking it’s like mindblowing. Why is that not default in all laptops? =)
I just found this factoid on Ohloh and I am amazed to read this:
LXDE: Very large, active development team
Over the past twelve months, 26 developers contributed new code to LXDE. This is one of the largest open-source teams in the world, and is in the top 2% of all project teams on Ohloh. For this measurement, Ohloh considered only recent changes to the code. Over the entire history of the project, 46 developers have contributed. (http://www.ohloh.net/p/lxde/factoids/)
I believe everyone in the LXDE team still considers the project as a rather small project with a small team. There have been many changes and advances, but I would have never guessed that LXDE is one of the big projects. If we see it in regards to Gnome and KDE, the relations become different though. Gnome has 432 developers according to Ohloh and KDE even 482 code contributors. XFCE shows up with 12 coders during the last twelve months.
I wonder how many people actually work in different desktop projects at the same time. We have friendly relationships with many contributors working on different projects already. Chris Wickert for example is a core member of LXDE and at the same time taking care of XFCE packages in Fedora. In the end we all share the same ideas and goals about free and open source and we actually share a lot of the code with many projects, especially with our friends from XFCE.
Everyone, keep up the good work! I hope to see more exchange and friendships among our projects. We welcome everyone to work and cooperate with us even if we have some different views sometimes on specific questions. In the end it is cooperation what makes us – as a software project and a community – advance faster and become better.
Please support LXDE and vote for our core member Chris Wickert in the elections of the Fedora Engeneering Steering Committee.
- Christoph is the maintainer of Xfce and LXDE in Fedora. A vote for Chris is a vote for lightweight desktops in Fedora.
- His goals are to make Fedora more lightweight and less ressource hungry as well as keeping depencies low.
To vote for Chris you need to have a (1) Fedora Account and (2) be accepted in a group, for example join Fedora Ambassadors. Voting is possible until June 22, 2009.
Chris is the most active distro package maintainer of LXDE in Fedora. His engagements is a great success for both Fedora and LXDE as the large interest at Chemnitzer Linuxtage and other events have shown recently.
A quote from Chris Wickert:
(I want to) … improve packaging quality and enforce higher standards for better cross desktop interoperability. Try to reduce the dependency bloat to make sure Fedora does not become too fat, so it still can be used on older or smaller hardware like netbooks or the OLPC without too much pain.
Nominations followed a predefined structure, where people could ask questions and get answers. The answers of Chris here. There was also an official IRC meet up for candidates with the logs also available.
Please vote for Chris on this page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fescof12
* Blog of Chris Wickert http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/
* Join Fedora https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts
Avelino from the CentOS Community in Brazil and Chris Wickert had an interesting talk on the LXDE IRC (irc.oftc.net #lxde), how to make LXDE run in CentOS.
There are no LXDE rpms for CentOS yet, but it is possible to rebuild the srpms from Fedora.
You can grab the latest packages from https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates, use the search box to search for a package and then install as described in http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Fedora.
If you download and install the CentOS RPM it should work fine (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/lxde).
You will also need menu-cache if you install latest lxpanel 0.4.0 or a later version.
The feedback on LXDE at the Chemnitzer Linuxtage in Germany has been fantastic. Klaus Knopper presented LXDE as a default on Knoppix. Christoph Wickert showed how to install LXDE on different systems and Marcus Schulderisnky introduced people to ways to translate LXDE. Here are voices from the blogosphere.
LXDE was a very important topic. We created USB-Sticks of Christoph Wickert’s LiveCD with LXDE on the visitors USB-Sticks.
Simon Wesp (Cassmodiah auf #lxde), http://cassmodiah.de/2009-03-16/clt-resume/
Ein kleines Highlight für mich war: Christoph Wickert schult Klaus Knopper in einer Knoppix-Vorlesung über LXDE! :-p
Jörg Simon (unser verantwortlicher Ambassador für den CLT> LXDE on Fedora was the Superstar this year – and what could be better
> than have the maintainer and a another LXDE upstream developer of this
> project at the Fedora Booth! We created Live-USB’s all the time, all
> Fedora Live CD’s are out since the first day, …
> Our booth was constantly visited, but after Klaus Knopper’s LXDE Talk,
> where Christoph raised the Fedora Flag for “the most complete
> implementation of LXDE”, Chritstoph had to bear with quite a bunch of
> people at the same time
> We have a projector at the booth, which has been really great for
> showing people different Fedora web pages, [...]
> Christoph Wickert has probably been the busiest Fedora person today,
> because he is giving a talk about LXDE, as well as a workshop. Klaus
> Knopper mentioned LXDE & Fedora during his talk about Knoppix, and
> this triggered a rush of people to the Fedora booth who wanted demos.
> We even switched the window manager on the computer hooked up to our
> projector to LXDE, and the computer (which was quite old) started
> running much faster than it was previously, with KDE 4.x. I’m really
> pleased (both for Fedora and for Christoph personally) to see his hard
> work with the rest of the LXDE upstream paying off.
Und noch ein paar andere Reaktionen, die ich gefunden habe:
> Als besonderer Schlager erwies sich dabei das Referat von Klaus
> Knopper zum schlanken Desktop-System LXDE, bei dem über 400
> interessierte Zuhörer den Saal bis in die letzte Ecke füllten.
> Die vielen interessanten Vorträge machten es schwer, eine Auswahl zu
> treffen. Da habe ich mir gewünscht, das ich “Viele” wäre. Ich habe mir
> die Vorträge von Klaus Knopper (LXDE – ein schlanker Desktop), J.
> Lichdi (Online-Durchsuchung und Vorratsdatenspeicherung), Dr.
> Klostermann (Daten im Netz aus rechtlicher Sicht) und K.U. Lockhoff
> (*BSD-Alternativen zu Linux) angehört.
> Jetzt LXDE vortrag. #clt09
> Lxde-vortrag: browserempfehlung midori? Sehr gut! Der ist noch viel zu
> unbekannt! #clt09 #lxde
> Freundin findet vortrag spannend. #clt09 #lxde
Und zum Abschluss natürlich einige Fotos:
We had a fantastic time at FOSDEM 2009 in Brussels. After the Chaos Communication Congress a few weeks ago, we have again seen many people already using LXDE. Christoph Wickert (Fedora) and I had a lightning talk where we gave an overview of LXDE and the expanding community in front of about 500 people. Special thanks to Tias Guns for hosting our talk.
We also met many contributors maintaining LXDE packages in Linux distributions. Even though the LXDE project is still a project of a small community, it is already one of the most international projects in the free and open source software world.
Sander Marechal from LXer writes: The most striking thing about LXDE is… the community. Where many projects lament the lack of Asian members the LXDE community is truly international. (http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/115938/)
We will continue to support the growth of the community, engage to get more resources for developers and contributors and make it easy for people to join us. Check out more infos on how to join here join.lxde.org.
* FOSDEM 2009 LXDE Talk: http://www.fosdem.org/2009/schedule/events/lxde
* Chaos Communication Congress 2009, LXDE Page: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/wiki/LXDE