Category Archives: Community

LXDE running on Android phones

LXDE has been ported to Googles Android by ghostwalker of androidfanatic.com. Thank you very much! We are pretty excited about running X-Windows and more specifically the LXDE Desktop GUI on mobile phones like the  G-1.

While IceWM, performance-wise runs the fastest – LXDE is also pretty good, and just plain ‘prettier! (http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/com…)

lxde-android

Detailed installation instructions are in the Android.com forum here: http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=1615

We are also collecting infos how to run LXDE on Android in our wiki: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Android

Summer of Code: Meet up with Leslie Hawthorn Community Manager of Google

Google LogoThe strength of an Open Source FOSS project comes from its community. Google has realized that and supports the community with its Summer of Code programme. I had the chance to meet up at an earlybird breakfast in Brussels with Leslie Hawthorn and some folks from Google like Peter Anvin to discuss some ideas of how we can work together to support the Asian FOSS community. Leslie Hawthorn is the program manager for Google’s Open Source Team and responsible for the Summer of Code project of Google.

I am happy that Google likes our ideas about bringing the international FOSS community closer together. The LXDE team is engaging in bringing the global FOSS community together by supporting the community with tools in their language, organizing meetings of contributors and educating folks about open source and free software. Recently some core members including Andrew Lee and me also joined the organization team of the OpenTechSummit series and we have much more in mind.

With me at the meeting I had also invited my friend Felix Fietkau aka nbd, the number one OpenWRT developer and member of the Freifunk community. The OpenWRT guys are currently working on making LXDE run with their speedy distribution. It is fascinating to see what will come out of it.

Google Summer of Code - LXDETalking about the GSoC: Leslie told me that Google is very positive of our upcoming application for the Summer of Code 2009. We will suggest some ideas for students who are interested to participate in our wiki soon. As this is a wiki, you are of course invited to post your ideas: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Google_Summer_of_Code_2009

LXDE Talk at FOSDEM 2009

We had a fantastic time at FOSDEM 2009 in Brussels. After the Chaos Communication Congress a few weeks ago, we have again seen many people already using LXDE. Christoph Wickert (Fedora)  and I had a lightning talk where we gave an overview of LXDE and the expanding community in front of about 500 people. Special thanks to Tias Guns for hosting our talk.

We also met many contributors maintaining LXDE packages in Linux distributions. Even though the LXDE project is still a project of a small community, it is already one of the most international projects in the free and open source software world.

Sander Marechal from LXer writes: The most striking thing about LXDE is… the community. Where many projects lament the lack of Asian members the LXDE community is truly international. (http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/115938/)

We will continue to support the growth of the community, engage to get more resources for developers and contributors and make it easy for people to join us. Check out more infos on how to join here join.lxde.org.

Links:

* FOSDEM 2009 LXDE Talk: http://www.fosdem.org/2009/schedule/events/lxde

* Chaos Communication Congress 2009, LXDE Page: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/wiki/LXDE

LXDE featured in prestigious magazine 新新聞 The Journalist

Shen Wanyu from the prestigious magazine ¨新新聞 The Journalist¨ in Taiwan interviewed us some time ago. Result was a six page article ( PDF-Download, 5,9 MB ) about business opportunities for companies with free and open source software.

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More information on the amazing global media coverage of LXDE in the Media Section of our wiki.


Translate *.po files with Poedit

Many of you wanted to help translating LXDE but only a few know how to do this, until now. Here is a description on how to help translating the components of LXDE. You can also view this article in the Wiki:

Translate *.po files with Poedit

This is a description how to translate LXDE components with Poedit. It is not complete and may be wrong at some places edit when I missed something important or even said something wrong (hope not ;)).

Get the code

First of all you should get the latest code from svn. To do so type in the following

 svn co https://lxde.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/lxde/trunk/ ./lxde

into a Terminal. You also can use a script for this.

 #!/bin/bash
# svn_co_lxde.sh
# autor maces

if [ -z $1 ]
then
	xterm -e $0 copy
else
        echo "starting"
        echo "------------------"
        svn co https://lxde.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/lxde/trunk/ ./lxde

        echo "------------------"
        echo "(program exited with code: $?)"
        echo "Press return to continue"
        #to be more compatible with shells like dash
        dummy_var=""
        read dummy_var
fi
exit

The script opens xterm and execute the same command as above. Make sure to make it executable (chmod 755 ./svn_co_lxde.sh). You now should have the latest code in ./lxde.

Install Poedit

Of course we need Poedit, so just install it (as root).

Archlinux:

 pacman -Sy poedit

Debian/Ubuntu:

 aptitude install poedit

Please add the command for your Distro

Translating

In this example we are going to translate LXMusic (Just change the path for another Program).

Open a *.pot file

This way when there is no yourlanguage.po file. Click on File->New catalog from POT file, navigate to ./lxde/lxmusic/po and open lxmusic.pot with Poedit and open the file. Now insert the wanted informations (if you want) and click OK. Now you have to choose the *.po file which will be generated. Please name it like de_DE.po/es_ES.po/zh_TW.po/… .

Open a *.po file

This way when you want to edit an existing yourlanguage.po file. Click on File->Open navigate to ./lxde/lxmusic/po and open lxmusic.po with Poedit and open the file.

Start translating

You should see something like this (If it doesn’t check Menu->View).

Here is a explanation of what you see.

Now we start translating. Simply select the strings you want to translate by click on them and insert the translation in the empty box under the original text (look at the Image). Go on like this until you are ready.

(hint: ctrl+up/down arrow moves between the strings)

Fuzzy translations

A translation can be marked as fuzzy, a fuzzy translation can originate from more or less to sources. The first one being yourself – or one of your peers. If a string is roughly translated and needs more attention it’s wise to mark it fuzzy to make it easy to find and review. The second source for fuzzy strings are msgmerge or something similar, when mergin an old translation with an updated template (.pot) msgmerge will note updated english strings with fuzzy to notify the translator to review the translations.

Do not leave fuzzy strings in translations considered done!

Image:Fuzzy-button.png

Edit Comment

For editing/making a comment simply click on the edit button (next to fuzzy button) and insert a comment in the Window which will appear.

Image:Edit-comment.png

You easily can see if a translation contains a comment by the comment icon in front of the original text in the mainview.

Image:Comment-symbol.png

What have I changed

To check what you have changed look for lines with a star in front of the original text.

Image:Changed-symbol.png

Save the translation

To save the .*po file just Click on File->Save.

Upload translation

There are (at the moment)two ways to upload the translations.

Way1 – The tracker

For this way you need an SF.net account. Go to https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?group_id=180858&atid=894871 and click on add new artifact. As subject use something like “German translation for lxmusic” and choose “Translations” as Category. Type in a nice text and don’t forget to attach your *.po file. After this click on Add Artifact and you are ready.

Way2 – The Mailinglist

For this way you need to subscribe to translation@mailinglist.lxde.org. If you are subscribed write a email to translation@mailinglist.lxde.org with Something like “German translation for lxmusi” as subject. Type in a nice text and don’t forget to attach your *.po file. After this send the email and you are ready.

Links

Wiki:

Translation project:

Mailinglist:

LXDE at the 25C3 Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin

25c3

Members of the LXDE community are currently meeting at the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin. The 25C3 is one of the biggest hacker and developer events in the world with more than 3000 hackers gathering for 4 days just after Christmas.
LXDE at the 25c3 Chaos Communication Congress
Mario Behling, Maces, alx

It is exciting to be here and see that many people already installed LXDE or try it out at the congress after our demo.

Trying out LXDE at the 25c3

The first Chaos Communication Congress took place in 1984 and is expanding every year. This year has been another amazing milestone. The maximum of 3000 tickets was sold out on the first day. The base for the LXDE project was set up in the hackerspace in the basement in a cozy corner with our friends from OpenWRT, freifunk.net, guifi.net, OLSR and Openpattern.

Elektra (Villagetelco), Xavier Carcelle (Openpattern.org), Roger Baig (guifi.net) Mario Behling (LXDE/Freifunk.net)
elektra, Xavier Carcelle, Roger Baig, Mario

We also got some work done during the congress. Lars of OpenWRT just finished work on packages of LXDE components for OpenWRT and we got together with Xavier Carcelle of Openpattern for preparations of the OpenTechSummit 2009 in Taiwan and pushing the idea of Open Hardware.

Launchpad or Transifex? What is the best system for LXDE?

With the increase of LXDE components and the ongoing development of LXDE the need for a better translation system has increased. We discussed different option in this forum here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=35

We have set up a vote for you to cast which system and solution you prefer. Please vote in this forum: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=163

There are three options:

1. Launchpad

2. Transifex at fedorahosted.org

3. Transifex hosted at lxde.org

Some quotes from the forum:

cwickert:
Launchpad
Pros:
* large user base, this means a lot of potential translators
* beginner-friendly
Cons:
* bad workflow for getting translations upstream
* getting translations into a a new release requires manual intervention: It has to be downloaded from launchpad and added to LXDE’s SVN.
* known to produce bad translations. This is the downside of being beginner-friendly

Transifex
Pros:
* More professional
* works with nearly every VCS: CVS, SVN, git, …
* Translations are automagically pushed back to upstream’s VCS
Cons:
* Requires ether to be set up on a server (which also mean maintainance) or to use fedorahosted.org
* Smaller userbase

Elias: I think Transifex is better for this project, because the development of LXDE is not made in Launchpad. Launchpad is not (afaik) so flexible than Transifex.

cwickert: If we use fedorahosted we are bound to the Fedora accounts system (just like we are bound to Launchpad user management), if we setup our own transifex we can manage users ourselves more easily.

ogmaciel: I’d like to support the idea of using Transifex and host it with Fedora projects (unless someone has the time and hardware/bandwith). All pros/cons already cited are a pretty good list but the one that imho is the most important is the fact that translations should always be done upstream, and then trickle down to distros. Transifex plus a good quality control process before committing files (more about that later) will allow for a quick, efficient, and top quality translation process.

For a better coordination of translations of LXDE we have started the LXDE Translation Project. Please also join the Translations Mailing list.

Transifex: http://transifex.org
Launchpad: https://launchpad.net
Forum for voting: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=163
LXDE Translation Project: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations
LXDE Translations Mailing list: http://mailinglist.lxde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/translation

LXDE Translation Project

We are starting the LXDE translation project. Please join the LXDE translation team now! Help translating LXDE into different languages. Join us improving the documentation and resources around LXDE.

It is the aim of the LXDE team and community to give access to information to people with less powerful hardware. Many did not have the chance to learn English or another second language. Let us make LXDE available in their language, so everyone can profit from the speed and easy to use features of LXDE!

LXDE is under constant development and recently more new components have been added. More components and updates means more opportunities for people to participate.

More ideas how to join the LXDE Community here: join.lxde.org

Recent Status of LXDE

Actually, the LXDE (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment) project had rested for some time. Though we’re getting more and more people to join us since Linux World Expo 2008, LXDE have no much improvements since July this year. It’s happened due to our main developers didn’t have time to write new code, PCMan took time to focuses on his physician jobs, Jserv has worked for a new project which is confidential. About me, I was burdened with my family, so I also need to focus on my current jobs and my school to earn more money.

Recently, we’re planning to release a new version and new stuffs of some LXDE components for Merry Christmas. :D It is a great news that LXDE has a new project – “menu-cache”, which is a library creating and utilizing caches to speed up the manipulation for freedesktop.org defined application menus, and also it can be used as a replacement of libgnome-menu of gnome-menus. It means the menu-cache will speed up our LXLauncher and LXPanel menu, they will be getting faster. for supporting the menu-cache, PCMan is working hard on LXPanel right now, you can see logs of SVN everyday.

Besides, we hope to release a lxpanel-dev package for development of lxpanel plugin next version. Currently, it is difficult to write a new plugin for lxpanel, if you wanna write a new one, you have to download the LXPanel sourcecode and inject your code into the LXPanel and then copy the .so file to the system folder after compile it successful. It doesn’t make sense that is too complicated for developing a plugin. So we are tring to export header files and pkgconfig for making easy for development of plugin. Additionally, LXPanel has been reformed, lxpanel-core and lxpanel-plugin be separated. It will be helpful to maintain LXPanel sourcecode for us.

Well, I wanna make an apology for all of patch provider right now, because you guys’ patches which wasn’t applied for a long time. We are reviewing those patches currently, it will be applied as soon as possible, I hope so.

LXDE team members believe that LXDE has a great future, even if we don’t have much time to do that. Hope you guys can join us to help LXDE keeps going. :-)

Community First!

The current release of MySQL shows the problems free and open source software projects face that put business first and community second. Michael “Monty” Widenius critizes in his Blog the current developement model of MySQL and recommends not to use the current release 5.1 of the database system.

The reason I am asking you to be very cautious about MySQL 5.1 is that there are still many known and unknown fatal bugs in the new features that are still not addressed.

Monty gives a some reasons why the MySQL development department again got a quality problem with the release. Some of them are:

  • MySQL 5.1 was declared beta and RC way too early. The reason MySQL 5.1 was declared RC was not because we thought it was close to being GA, but because the MySQL manager in charge *wanted to get more people testing MySQL 5.1*. This didn’t however help much, …
  • We have changed the release model so that instead of focusing on quality and features our release is now defined by timeliness and features…
  • The MySQL core developers have been split into too many teams and only a small part of the core developers have been working on MySQL 5.1 to get the bugs fixed. Some of the core developers have also recently left the MySQL organization which is a serious issue as there is not many of of them.
  • Too many new developers without a thorough knowledge of the server have been put on the product trying to fix bugs…
  • Bug fixing and development processes are not systematic and not persistent.
  • We have not been giving the MySQL community enough opportunities to test MySQL 5.1 (too few releases). … the MySQL current development model doesn’t in practice allow the MySQL community to participate in the development of the MySQL server …
  • Internal QA on the MySQL server was started very late in the process. Now when the process have started to show results, the found bugs have largely being ignored as fixing these they would delayed the MySQL 5.1 GA date.
  • The MySQL server team have a bug fixing policy where a bug that has existed a long time has a lower priority ‘because people know about them’. This is supposedly one of the reasons why the Bug#989 mentioned above has not been fixed.

As I said in my talk at the MySQL users conference, I think it’s time to seriously review how the MySQL server is being developed and change the development model to be more like Drizzle and PostgreSQL where the community has a driving role in what gets done! (http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2008/11/oops-we-did-it-again-mysql-51-released.html)

What can we learn for the LXDE project here? The consequences are clear. During recent months we have already worked hard to improve the tools and infrastructure for the growing LXDE community and we will continue to do it. The community must take a leading role in development of software systems in order to keep the system on the bleeding edge.

Companies are always welcome to join development and focus on their business models. Projects like LXDE have a roadmap that is following long term goals instead of short term profitability. We are inviting more people to join the LXDE development, test LXDE and support and contribute – for faster and more energy efficient software. Please check out our contribution page at http://join.lxde.org.