Launchpad or Transifex? What is the best system for LXDE?

With the increase of LXDE components and the ongoing development of LXDE the need for a better translation system has increased. We discussed different option in this forum here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=35

We have set up a vote for you to cast which system and solution you prefer. Please vote in this forum: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=163

There are three options:

1. Launchpad

2. Transifex at fedorahosted.org

3. Transifex hosted at lxde.org

Some quotes from the forum:

cwickert:
Launchpad
Pros:
* large user base, this means a lot of potential translators
* beginner-friendly
Cons:
* bad workflow for getting translations upstream
* getting translations into a a new release requires manual intervention: It has to be downloaded from launchpad and added to LXDE’s SVN.
* known to produce bad translations. This is the downside of being beginner-friendly

Transifex
Pros:
* More professional
* works with nearly every VCS: CVS, SVN, git, …
* Translations are automagically pushed back to upstream’s VCS
Cons:
* Requires ether to be set up on a server (which also mean maintainance) or to use fedorahosted.org
* Smaller userbase

Elias: I think Transifex is better for this project, because the development of LXDE is not made in Launchpad. Launchpad is not (afaik) so flexible than Transifex.

cwickert: If we use fedorahosted we are bound to the Fedora accounts system (just like we are bound to Launchpad user management), if we setup our own transifex we can manage users ourselves more easily.

ogmaciel: I’d like to support the idea of using Transifex and host it with Fedora projects (unless someone has the time and hardware/bandwith). All pros/cons already cited are a pretty good list but the one that imho is the most important is the fact that translations should always be done upstream, and then trickle down to distros. Transifex plus a good quality control process before committing files (more about that later) will allow for a quick, efficient, and top quality translation process.

For a better coordination of translations of LXDE we have started the LXDE Translation Project. Please also join the Translations Mailing list.

Transifex: http://transifex.org
Launchpad: https://launchpad.net
Forum for voting: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=163
LXDE Translation Project: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations
LXDE Translations Mailing list: http://mailinglist.lxde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/translation

LXMusic – Minimalist xmms2-based music player

Everyone loves screenshots!

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LXMusic – The minimalist music player for LXDE. This is based on xmms2, which is lightweight and has server/client design. The user interface is quite simple, clean, and intuitive. At first glance, it looks similar to my favorite player on Windows – foobar 2000. LXMusic only has very few features, and it can do nothing more than just playing a list of music files. However, this is what’s lacking today, a player which doesn’t try to teach you how to listen your own music files. It just plays! That’s all.

It’s still under development and is still in alpha stage, but it’s enough for everyday use. Please grab the tarball or download the hotest code from LXDE svn repo to get it tested!

LXDE Translation Project

We are starting the LXDE translation project. Please join the LXDE translation team now! Help translating LXDE into different languages. Join us improving the documentation and resources around LXDE.

It is the aim of the LXDE team and community to give access to information to people with less powerful hardware. Many did not have the chance to learn English or another second language. Let us make LXDE available in their language, so everyone can profit from the speed and easy to use features of LXDE!

LXDE is under constant development and recently more new components have been added. More components and updates means more opportunities for people to participate.

More ideas how to join the LXDE Community here: join.lxde.org

Recent Status of LXDE

Actually, the LXDE (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment) project had rested for some time. Though we’re getting more and more people to join us since Linux World Expo 2008, LXDE have no much improvements since July this year. It’s happened due to our main developers didn’t have time to write new code, PCMan took time to focuses on his physician jobs, Jserv has worked for a new project which is confidential. About me, I was burdened with my family, so I also need to focus on my current jobs and my school to earn more money.

Recently, we’re planning to release a new version and new stuffs of some LXDE components for Merry Christmas. :D It is a great news that LXDE has a new project – “menu-cache”, which is a library creating and utilizing caches to speed up the manipulation for freedesktop.org defined application menus, and also it can be used as a replacement of libgnome-menu of gnome-menus. It means the menu-cache will speed up our LXLauncher and LXPanel menu, they will be getting faster. for supporting the menu-cache, PCMan is working hard on LXPanel right now, you can see logs of SVN everyday.

Besides, we hope to release a lxpanel-dev package for development of lxpanel plugin next version. Currently, it is difficult to write a new plugin for lxpanel, if you wanna write a new one, you have to download the LXPanel sourcecode and inject your code into the LXPanel and then copy the .so file to the system folder after compile it successful. It doesn’t make sense that is too complicated for developing a plugin. So we are tring to export header files and pkgconfig for making easy for development of plugin. Additionally, LXPanel has been reformed, lxpanel-core and lxpanel-plugin be separated. It will be helpful to maintain LXPanel sourcecode for us.

Well, I wanna make an apology for all of patch provider right now, because you guys’ patches which wasn’t applied for a long time. We are reviewing those patches currently, it will be applied as soon as possible, I hope so.

LXDE team members believe that LXDE has a great future, even if we don’t have much time to do that. Hope you guys can join us to help LXDE keeps going. :-)

LXPanel 0.4.0 beta! Testers are needed!

We haven’t have new releases of LXPanel for quite a long time, but the development is still ongoing.

Major Changes:
* Greatly rewrite application menu with our new menu-cache library. Now it’s complete and more user-friendly
* Improved “Run” dialog
* Improved OSS volume plugin
* Image showed on application menu button can be changed with GUI.
* Add new temperature monitor plugin by Daniel Kesler
* Size of icons now can automatically be automatically adjusted according to the height of the panel.
* Numerous bug fixes and more…

Please get it tested since lxpanel 0.4 will be released very soon.

Note that to make the whole new menu work correctly, now menu-cache and lxmenu-data are needed.
LXPanel source tarball

menu-cache library tarball (lightweight library used to generate standard compliant menus)

lxmenu-data tarball (data files used to build the menu)

LXSession Edit – Configure what’s automatically started in LXDE.

It’s well known and well documented that our session manager LXSession Lite suppport the autostart freedesktop.org specs. However, autostart spec is a term for developers and it’s meaningless for our end users. Basically, it provides a way to automatically start some applications after login.

Now this can (partially) be configured through a simple GUI – LXSession Edit.

You can turn on some disabled gnome applications in LXDE with this handy tool.

Also, window manager used in LXDE can be changed with this tool, too (Only lxsession lite is supported, not the deprecated lxsession).

Currently adding and removing application from this startup list is not yet available, but it will be support in the next release.

The package is available here for testing: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfil…
Testers and packagers are wanted!!

Community First!

The current release of MySQL shows the problems free and open source software projects face that put business first and community second. Michael “Monty” Widenius critizes in his Blog the current developement model of MySQL and recommends not to use the current release 5.1 of the database system.

The reason I am asking you to be very cautious about MySQL 5.1 is that there are still many known and unknown fatal bugs in the new features that are still not addressed.

Monty gives a some reasons why the MySQL development department again got a quality problem with the release. Some of them are:

  • MySQL 5.1 was declared beta and RC way too early. The reason MySQL 5.1 was declared RC was not because we thought it was close to being GA, but because the MySQL manager in charge *wanted to get more people testing MySQL 5.1*. This didn’t however help much, …
  • We have changed the release model so that instead of focusing on quality and features our release is now defined by timeliness and features…
  • The MySQL core developers have been split into too many teams and only a small part of the core developers have been working on MySQL 5.1 to get the bugs fixed. Some of the core developers have also recently left the MySQL organization which is a serious issue as there is not many of of them.
  • Too many new developers without a thorough knowledge of the server have been put on the product trying to fix bugs…
  • Bug fixing and development processes are not systematic and not persistent.
  • We have not been giving the MySQL community enough opportunities to test MySQL 5.1 (too few releases). … the MySQL current development model doesn’t in practice allow the MySQL community to participate in the development of the MySQL server …
  • Internal QA on the MySQL server was started very late in the process. Now when the process have started to show results, the found bugs have largely being ignored as fixing these they would delayed the MySQL 5.1 GA date.
  • The MySQL server team have a bug fixing policy where a bug that has existed a long time has a lower priority ‘because people know about them’. This is supposedly one of the reasons why the Bug#989 mentioned above has not been fixed.

As I said in my talk at the MySQL users conference, I think it’s time to seriously review how the MySQL server is being developed and change the development model to be more like Drizzle and PostgreSQL where the community has a driving role in what gets done! (http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2008/11/oops-we-did-it-again-mysql-51-released.html)

What can we learn for the LXDE project here? The consequences are clear. During recent months we have already worked hard to improve the tools and infrastructure for the growing LXDE community and we will continue to do it. The community must take a leading role in development of software systems in order to keep the system on the bleeding edge.

Companies are always welcome to join development and focus on their business models. Projects like LXDE have a roadmap that is following long term goals instead of short term profitability. We are inviting more people to join the LXDE development, test LXDE and support and contribute – for faster and more energy efficient software. Please check out our contribution page at http://join.lxde.org.

LXDE Meeting in Shenzhen – Video

There is now a video online of the gathering with the Shenzhen Linux User Group and our discussion about Open Source and LXDE provided from Zhang Le. Thanks a lot!

Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9072456269136280272

Avi-Link: http://www.gentoo-cn.org/~zhangle/szlug/mario_lxde_20081122.avi

Linux User Group Shenzhen (Szlug) Meeting and Presentation of LXDE

I had a fantastic meeting with the Linux User Group in Shenzhen, which is just on the border to Hong Kong and seat of some famous technology companies such as Huawei and Tencent (QQ). The Shenzhen Linux User Group (Szlug) is one of the biggest Linux User Groups in Asia and has currently 480 members. About 60 members are actively involved in activities. I am very impressed by the group and I am looking forward to follow their advancements.

深圳 Linux Unix 用户组 SZLUG: Shenzhen Linux Unix Local User Group (深圳 Linux Unix 用户组/俱乐部) SZLUG 是深圳 Linux Unix 爱好者自发组织的团体。 SZLUG 以非定期组织聚会、交流使用自由软件心得 为活动内容,鼓励和吸引各行各业人员的参与,向社会 传达自由软件的力量,让更多的人接受自由软件的理念。 SZLUG 的聊天室地址是 irc://freenode/#szlug 如果希望加入 szlug 通讯录,请将真实个人信息发送给 jungle。只有加入 szlug 通讯录的成员可以得到 通讯录的副本。

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Anders from the User Group has written the minutes of the meeting below.

时间:2008年11月22

日下午2点~6点
地点:中信广场某露天酒吧
出席人员:德林(Mario), bbbush, Zhang Le, Crquan, Anders, 杨城, 卢波, Dalin, Iyhlnm, Ajon, Hailong

德林(Mario)来自德国,

此次特地来深圳与SZLUG分享LXDE项目。LXDE是一个由PCMan在台湾发起的开源项目。来自亚洲的开源项目在当
前环境下显得弥足珍贵,目前有很多欧美人也加入了LXDE开源项目,德林(Mario)就是其中一员。

LXDE聚会演示设备是两台ASUS的EEEPC,同样的硬件配置,软件上只有桌面的差别,一台是LXDE桌面。首先德林(Mario)介绍了LXDE
的易用性,LXDE有很多灵活方便的功能,例如:Pannel设定,Theme切换,Apple/Windows风格选择,Alt-F4/Ctrl
+Alt+Del热键支援等等。当然LXDE最大的特点是快,耗用系统资源少。期间德林(Mario)为我们做了很多速度方面的对比测试:开机测试,
Open Office启动测试,Firefox启动测试。测试发现LXDE在速度上的确很快,给人很流畅的感觉。最后一个测试是Crash
Test, 打开了20多个应用程序,有Firefox,word,spreadsheet,还有一个游戏。在这种情况下系统内存耗用大概380M,
CPU占用率在30%。如果关闭游戏,CPU占用率才6%。这个Crash Test很COOL,系统就是没有Crash,而且反应速度依然很快!

在展示过LXDE功能后,德林(Mario)又介绍了很多LXDE项目的参与人员,让我们了解了很多开源项目背后的故事。比较深刻的就是讲到一个
Musician也加入了LXDE项目,道理很简单,不是只有RD才可以为开源项目贡献,其实每个人都可以为开源项目做贡献,无论是哪个层面的贡献,只
要你喜爱开源项目。接下来是LXDE基金会与LXDE System公司的介绍,更多的关于LXDE的信息大家可以去LXDE网站了解。在LXDE聚会
最后大家合影留念。

Links:

– LXDE官方网站 http://lxde.org
– IRC #lxde on irc.oftc.net
– Szlug http://szlug.org
– Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/szlug
- 欢迎访问IRC群: irc://freenode/#szlug
- 用户组WiKi : http://www.szlug.org
- More Pictures here: http://pics.livejournal.com/bbbush/gallery/0001yryp?page=3
- Video of the meeting: http://www.gentoo-cn.org/~zhangle/szlug/mario_lxde_20081122.avi